SOC325.22 (Spring 2000) -- Kuechler
INFORMATION AND COMMUNICATION REVOLUTION
 
 

Joining an e-mail discussion group (e-mail list)


Since we have experienced much trouble with Internet connections during class and since e-mail not always respond instantly, the following step-by-step demonstration was compiled as a backup -- if a live demonstration should fail again.
 

Step 1

Identify a discussion group (list) you want to join. There are several searchable catalogs of available lists, these include Make sure to write down both the name of the list (often a list name is of the form xxxxx-l) and the e-mail address of the "subscription department" (this often reflects the software that is used for running the list, e.g., majordomo@shiva.hunter.cuny.edu, listserv@unm.edu, etc.). Be aware that the address for the list itself (once you become a subscriber, you will need this address to "post" any messages) is different from that of its "subscription department".

For the purpose of this demonstration, I have selected a discussion group on the "Argentine Tango". Here is my subscription request:
 

Step 2

To guard against abuse (e.g., someone playing a prank using my e-mail address to subscribe me to a list without my knowledge), most lists now require a confirmation of the subscription request. So, I got the following message in return:
 

And here is the full text of this message:
 
Your command:

                            SUBSCRIBE TANGO-L

has been received. For security reasons, you are now required to reply to
this  message, as  explained  below,  to confirm  the  execution of  your
command. Note  that the security  level of the  list is under  list owner
control,  and that  is the  person  you should  contact if  you have  any
complaint about security procedures.

To confirm  the execution of  your command,  simply reply to  the present
message and type  "ok" (without the quotes) as the  text of your message.
Just the word "ok" - do not  retype the command. This procedure will work
with any mail  program that fully conforms to the  Internet standards for
electronic  mail. If  you receive  an error  message, try  sending a  new
message to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU (without  using the "reply" function -
this  is very  important) and  type  "ok 6556DD04"  as the  text of  your
message.

Finally, your  command will be  cancelled automatically if  LISTSERV does
not receive your confirmation within 48h. After that time, you must start
over and resend the command to get a new confirmation code. If you change
your mind and decide that you do  NOT want to confirm the command, simply
discard the present message and let the request expire on its own. 


 

Step 3

I sent a confirmation as requested:
 

Step 4

I receive an acknowledgment that I am now subscribed to the tango-l discussion group:
 

You may not get a short message of this kind, but rather a longer message which tells you more about the lists and your subscription. In this case, I got both kinds of messages. Here is the text of the longer message which arrived at the same time:
 
Wed, 22 Mar 2000 21:52:45

Your subscription  to the TANGO-L list  (Discussion of Any Aspect  of the
Argentine Tango) has been accepted.

                   Welcome to TANGO-L@MITVMA.MIT.EDU!
Last revised 11 September 1999

*********************************************************************
NOTE: You are receiving this file as  a result of your subscribing to the
TANGO-L list (Discussion of Any Aspect of the Argentine Tango).

There is another complementary list TANGO-A which is for Announcements of
Tango events  worldwide. You  may also  want to  subscribe to  that list,
which  you do  by sending  e-mail to  <listserv@mitvma.mit.edu> with  the
message
                  subscribe LISTNAME Firstname Lastname
in  the body  of the  message (replacing  "Firstname Lastname"  with your
actual first  and last names  and "LISTNAME"  with Tango-A or  Tango-L as
appropriate).
*********************************************************************

CONTENTS
========
0. How to unsubscribe from this list (and how NOT to)
1. Introduction -- Why you should read and save this message
2. Use of the Digest option to reduce your mail volume
3. How to change your subscription or subscription options
4. Sending messages to the everyone on the list
5. Who can join?  Why might you be removed from the list?
6. Submission Guidelines and Policies (READ THIS before posting anything!)
7. Information on other LISTSERV commands
8. Whom to contact for other questions related to operation of the list

0. How to unsubscribe from this list (and how NOT to)
=====================================================
To unsubscribe from this list, send the command
                           unsubscribe TANGO-L
to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU. If you need  help unsubscribing an old e-mail
address    that     you    no     longer    use,    send     e-mail    to
TANGO-L-Request@MITVMA.MIT.EDU, indicating the  complete address that you
want removed (or, if you don't  remember it exactly, any information that
will help identify it, such as portions  of the old address). Do NOT send
e-mail to the entire list asking to  be removed from the list, as you may
get 500 copies  of these instructions telling you the  right way of doing
it!

1. Introduction -- Why you should read and save this message
============================================================
TANGO-L is a public electronic mailing  list for Discussion of Any Aspect
of the Argentine  Tango. It is sponsored by the  MIT Ballroom Dance Club,
but is a general discussion list  for everyone in the worldwide Argentine
Tango community.

Please  read  this  message  completely  and  then  SAVE  IT  FOR  FUTURE
REFERENCE,  even if  you are  familiar with  LISTSERV and/or  the TANGO-L
list. This might look like a waste of disk space now, but in 6 months you
will be glad you saved this  information when you realize that you cannot
remember what are the lists you are subscribed to, or what is the command
to leave  the list  to avoid  filling up  your mailbox  while you  are on
vacations. In fact, you should create  a new mail folder for subscription
confirmation  messages  like  this   one,  and  for  additional  "welcome
messages" from  the list  owners that you  are will  occasionally receive
after subscribing to a new list.

2. Use of the Digest option to reduce your mail volume
======================================================
This list  is available in  a digested  or undigested format;  unless you
specifically requested  a digest,  you are  subscribed to  the undigested
list. The  digest option to a  list concatenates all the  messages over a
period of  time (daily for the  TANGO-L list) into one  message and sends
out the consolidated message, with an  index at the top. This reduces the
number of e-mail messages you get and lets you scan the subjects quickly;
however, it is a little more difficult to respond to individual messages.

3. How to change your subscription or subscription options
==========================================================
In case you prefer  an option other than the one  you currently signed up
for,  here  are  the  instructions   for  subscribing  or  changing  your
subscription options to TANGO-L.

You should e-mail the command(s) shown below  in the BODY of a message to
LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU. Multiple commands may  appear in the same e-mail
message, and  are processed  sequentially. The exception  to this  is the
subscribe command, which generates a confirmation message to you that you
must  reply  to  before  you   are  subscribed;  until  you  are  finally
subscribed, you  cannot change any  options (like digest), so  you cannot
"subscribe" and "set" in the same e-mail message.

a. To subscribe to TANGO-L (UN-digested):
        subscribe TANGO-L Yourfirstname Yourlastname

b. To change to the (daily) digest option to TANGO-L, after your
   subscription has been confirmed:
        set TANGO-L digest

c. To change from digest to regular mail, use:
        set TANGO-L mail

d. You can also turn mail off temporarily with:
        set TANGO-L nomail
   This may be useful to do if you are going to be away
   for some time and don't want your mail to pile up.

e. To turn mail back on (that was turned off with the
   "set TANGO-L nomail" command), use the command:
        set TANGO-L mail          (for undigested), or
        set TANGO-L digest        (for digested)

f. To unsubscribe completely from a list, use:
        signoff TANGO-L      or
        unsubscribe TANGO-L

Note that the digest/mail/nomail settings  are all mutually exclusive, so
that exactly  one will always  be active  (default when you  subscribe is
"mail").  This means  that you  cannot,  for instance,  receive both  the
digested and undigested  versions of the SAME list,  unless you subscribe
twice under two different e-mail addresses.

4. Sending messages to the everyone on the list
===============================================
To send  a message to  all the people  currently subscribed to  the list,
just send mail to TANGO-L@MITVMA.MIT.EDU. This is called "sending mail to
the list," because  you send mail to a single  address and LISTSERV makes
copies   for  all   the  people   who  have   subscribed.  This   address
(TANGO-L@MITVMA.MIT.EDU) is also called  the "list address." It generally
takes between a few  minutes and a few hours for everyone  on the list to
receive the  message, but some  remote addresses could  conceivably incur
delays of a few days, at times.

You must never  try to send any  command to that address, as  it would be
distributed to all  the people who have subscribed. All  commands must be
sent  to  the "LISTSERV  address",  LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU.  It is  very
important to understand the difference between  the two, as people on the
list get  annoyed if you send  commands meant for LISTSERV  to the entire
membership of the list!

This list  is restricted to  receiving messages only from  subscribers to
the list, to  avoid unwanted "spams." If your submission  is rejected, it
is probably because  you are sending the e-mail from  a different account
than the  one you subscribed  under. The best method  is to use  the same
login and  machine for  sending mail  that you  used when  you originally
subscribed.  If this  is  not practical  for you,  another  option is  to
subscribe all of the two or three  machines that you use, and set all but
one to  "nomail"; this will  let you send mail  from any of  the machines
without receiving multiple copies.

All postings from  new subcribers to the list are  initially forwarded to
one of  a handful of list  administrators, who will need  to approve your
posting to  the list. This catches  most postings with format  or content
problems from new  members--after a few postings,  your subscription will
be modified so that you will be  able to post directly to the list. Until
then, you may incur 1-3 days of  delay before your postings appear on the
list. (In  rare cases, other  subscribers may also  be set to  have their
postings  reviewed  by a  list  administrator  if  there are  serious  or
repeated  problems  with  postings  by  that  susbcriber  in  either  the
formatting or content of that subscribers' messages.)

5. Who can join?  Why might you be removed from the list?
=========================================================
Anyone can  join the  list by  sending e-mail  to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
with a SUBSCRIBE command.

(You may  subscribe a local redistribution  list or a gateway  to a local
newsgroup, as long as whatever you do  is local to your site. Please send
e-mail, describing what you plan to do, to TANGO-L-Request@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
before  you  do this,  so  that  we may  verify  that  there will  be  no
problems.)

Addresses  that generate  bounced e-mail  (i.e., if  your e-mail  address
stops working) will be dropped  automatically; you'll have to resubscribe
when the problem is fixed, by sending the command
                    subscribe TANGO-L Your Full Name
to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU.  After your subscription has  been confirmed,
send the command
                           set TANGO-L digest
to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU. (The digest option is strongly recommended if
you are resubscribing after problems  with your address, since it reduces
the number  of further bounces  that the  list administrator has  to deal
with if the problem has not  cleared, and avoids your being removed again
prematurely.  After  you  have  verified that  the  address  is  behaving
normally again, you can remove the digest option if you'd like.)

Although a message is sent to  you indicating this, you will probably not
receive it (since e-mail to you was bouncing to start with), and the only
way you will know is that you will stop receiving e-mail from the list.

This is the only  reason that anyone has ever been  dropped from the list
and, since this is a friendly forum, it is hoped that this will always be
the only  reason. However,  to protect  the list and  its members,  it is
necessary to  state that you  may be removed  from the list,  and/or kept
from posting  to it, under  circumstances including, but not  limited to,
the following: Extreme or continued  violation of the list guidelines and
policies, or of  Internet usage conventions (as determined  solely by the
list administrator  or list  owner, or person(s)  designated by  the list
administrator or list owner); violation of the acceptable use policies of
the  sponsoring  institution  (MIT);  violation of  any  applicable  law,
including copyright  law; any other action  that, in the sole  opinion of
the list administrator or list owner, or person(s) designated by the list
administrator or list owner, may be  harmful to the list, its members, or
the computer facilities or networks that support it.

6. Submission Guidelines and Policies (READ THIS before posting anything!)
==========================================================================
You will receive a separate file containing the rules that members of the
list are expected  to adhere to. Acceptance and adherence  to these rules
is a  precondition for  participation in TANGO-L.  If you  have questions
about a particular rule,  or wish to verify that a  posting is within the
guidelines,   please   send  e-mail   to   the   list  administrator   at
TANGO-L-Request@MITVMA.MIT.EDU. Please do not ask this on the list, as it
will invariably lead  to tangential discussions on the  list rules, which
divert from the primary subject of the list.

7. Information on other LISTSERV commands
==========================================
A previous section of this message already told you how to subscribe, and
chance your  digest options for  the TANGO-L list.  Here are a  few other
useful commands.

For more information  about subscription options, send  a "QUERY TANGO-L"
command to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU.

More  information on  LISTSERV  commands  can be  found  in the  LISTSERV
reference  card, which  you can  retrieve  by sending  an "INFO  REFCARD"
command to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU.

This list has been  set up so that LISTSERV will send you  a copy of your
own messages,  so that you can  see that the message  was distributed and
did not  get damaged on the  way. If you  would rather not get  copies of
your   own   message,  send   a   "SET   TANGO-L  NOREPRO"   command   to
LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU.

8. Whom to contact for other questions related to operation of the list
=======================================================================
If you have  further questions, comments or concerns  with the management
of the TANGO-L list, you should send e-mail to the administrative contact
for  the  list,   TANGO-L-Request@MITVMA.MIT.EDU.  Remember  that  normal
operations of subscribing,  unsubscribing, changing subscription options,
etc., are all  handled automatically via e-mail commands (in  the BODY of
the message) to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU. 

This is an unusual long and detailed message. While the LISTSERV software provide a "template" for this letter, it is up to the "list owner" to make additions and modifications. Read this message carefully, since it tells you a lot about how an e-mail list works. This list even sends a third message, a set of explicit rules governing the list. Here is the full text:
 
*********************************************************************
NOTE: You are receiving this file as a result of your subscribing to
the Tango-L list (General Discussion on the Argentine Tango).

There is another complementary list TANGO-A which is for announcements
of Argentine Tango events worldwide. You may also want to subscribe to
that list, which you do by sending e-mail to <listserv@mitvma.mit.edu>
with the message
    subscribe tango-A Firstname Lastname
in the body of the message (replacing "Firstname Lastname" with your
actual first and last names).
*********************************************************************

All subscribers to Tango-L should read these rules--certainly before
posting anything to the list.  These rules supersede previous rules or
guidelines for this list.  Subscribers to the list should note that
they are guests of the sponsoring organization and the list owners
and, as such, are expected to comply with these rules, and agreeing
to conform to these rules is a precondition for participating in
Tango-L. Since these rules are intended to reflect the views of the
majority of the list members, however, your comments on them are
welcomed and encouraged, so that they can reflect these views more
accurately.  Please send comments or questions about any of the rules
to tango-L-REQUEST@mitvma.mit.edu ONLY, and NOT to the entire list!

             Usage rules for the Tango-L mailing list
             ========================================
                   Last revised: 11 September 1999

NOTE:  These rules _supplement_ Netiquette, the generally established
rules governing acceptable behaviour on the Internet.  I.e., members of
this list are still expected to have read and to follow those
guidelines.  They may be obtained from your service provider, or
from the Usenet newsgroups news.announce.newusers or news.answers.

CONTENTS/SUMMARY
================
1. Relevance of Postings
   - Tango related only
   - NO FLAMES!
   - Announcements of local events should go to Tango-A
   - No personal mail
   - Language of postings
2. Copyrights
   - Get permission before submitting copyright-protected works
   - How may your own articles be copied without your (explicit) permission?
   - Can _you_ copy other people's articles without their permission?
3. Common Sense Stuff
   - Be courteous
   - Compile responses to your questions, and post back to the list
   - No "1-liners"
   - Use meaningful "Subject:" line
   - Don't quote original unnecessarily on followups
   - Don't monopolize the list
   - No binary files
   - Be aware of cultural differences
   - Don't post private correspondence without the author's permission
4. Commercial Postings (Advertising)
   - ALMOST ALL COMMERCIAL POSTINGS BELONG IN TANGO-A
   - 1-time introductions of professionals or organizations are OK, with
     annual reintroduction (other postings to Tango-A)
   - Postings unrelated to Tango are explicitly prohibited
   - Disinterested 3rd-party reviews OK (if they are of local scope, they
     should be go to Tango-A)
5. List Abuse and Responses to Them
   - Spam (obviously not permitted)
   - Chain letters (obviously not permitted)
   - NO DISCUSSION of list abuses on the list!
6. Enforcement of rules
   - Monitoring of subsequent postings
   - PRIVATE e-mail by other list members (NOT to the entire list)
   - If you aren't sure, ask the list administrator
   - In extreme cases ...
7. Function of this medium
   - Distribution only
   - Responsibility for content lies with posters

1. Relevance
============
a. All articles should be related to the Argentine Tango or a directly
related dance or musical form.

b. Personal flame-wars are not permitted on this list.  Heated debates
on the merits or otherwise of a particular Tango technique, music,
style, etc., or even objective critique, positive or negative, of a
well-known Tango teacher, are perfectly appropriate; however, anything
that degenerates into personal attacks should be relegated to personal
e-mail.  It is a strong preference of members of this list, as well as
its hosts, the list owners, that this sort of "mean-spirited mood
[and] ... juvenile invective ... [that] has seeped into conversations on
[some] Internet newsgroups and other computer talk forums"[1] NOT be
part of Tango-L.  Besides, it is just plain boring to the 99% of list
members not involved in the hostilities.  Accordingly, you may find less
tolerance from members of this list to violation of this rule than to
most of the others.
  [1] Langdon Winner in "The Culture of Technology: Privileged
      Communications," MIT Technology Review, Spring 1996.

c. Announcements of events of local scope should be posted on Tango-A,
which was created specifically for this purpose, and not on Tango-L,
which is primarily for Tango-related discussion rather than
announcements.

d. Do not send personal replies to the entire list; before sending the
mail, please think about whether it would be of widespread interest to
the whole community, or mainly just to the original poster or to one or
two other persons only.

e. English appears to be the de facto standard language of the list,
inasmuch as it is understood by a majority of list members. However,
articles may be posted in any language of the poster's choosing.
(Several postings appear in Spanish, and many of these are particularly
appreciated by list members, such as postings from Argentina or from
Spanish-speaking Tango authorities.  Bilingual list members sometimes
voluntarily translate them into English. (Translations in the other
direction--from English to Spanish--have been rare, but are also
welcomed.) So if you can express yourself better in another language,
especially Spanish, you are welcomed to submit postings in that
language. If you request, at the top of your article, that it be
translated into English, it is quite likely that someone will do so.

2. Copyrights
=============
a. Do not submit any copyright-protected works, unless you have written
permission from the copyright-owner (and include a statement to that
effect).

b. Any article submitted to this list may be stored, archived, translated
into another language, made available for searches and retrievals,
selected and redistributed by a moderator, gatewayed to related lists or
Usenet groups or related forums, or otherwise copied and/or distributed
electronically by automatic, semi-automatic or manual means.  Such
storage and redistribution is inherent to the function of the list, and
any poster to this list acknowledges and permits such storage and
redistribution by the list owners or administrators, or other persons
authorized by them.

c. There are conflicting opinions about the extent to which original
articles distributed electronically on public forums are protected by
copyright.  These opinions vary from (a) "they are automatically in the
public domain" (generally not considered supportable) to (b) "the author
has absolute ownership with or without a copyright notice." The best
course is for people reading or using others' articles to assume that
original material posted to this list is fully protected by U.S. and
International Copyright laws and agreements, and that they are
responsible for knowing about and observing these laws. (Authors,
however, should not assume that this position will necessarily be
enforceable.)

Notwithstanding legalities, the following is generally regarded as
appropriate usage by the Internet community for articles posted to
Internet mailing lists--however, these informal conventions are NOT
represented as being accurate, authoritative, complete or even legal:
 - Copyright ownership remains with the article's author(s), whose
   permission must be obtained for use beyond "Fair Use," even if there
   is no explicit copyright notice.
 - Casual electronic distribution (e.g., to friends) and reposting to
   related electronic forums, archives, etc., are acceptable, as long as
   this is done with attribution and for no monetary or other tangible
   consideration.  If this is done in a systematic or regular way (such
   as creating archives, gatewaying to a local newsgroup, etc.), the
   permission of the list administrator must be obtained first.
 - It is common practice to quote back to the list in a followup
   article, portions or all of an article originally submitted
   publically to the list, with ones own comments interspersed.
 - For non-electronic media, paid subscriptions, etc., limited
   excerpting for reviews, summaries, etc., such as would be permitted
   under the "Fair Use" doctrine for any other Copyrighted work, is
   permitted, as long as the intent of the author is not distorted or
   misrepresented.  The outright copying of an article for
   re-publication is almost always in violation of copyright statutes,
   unless you have obtained the permission of the author first.
   Publishers often use a "300-word limit on works quoted without
   permission"[2] as a maximum  excerpting allowance for large
   works--although this sets a precendent, it is not part of the
   Copyright laws, so adhering to it does not guarantee that you are
   within the scope of "Fair Use." In particular, it is unlikely to be
   considered "Fair Use" for the sort of articles posted to Internet
   mailing lists, where 300 words may well be a large fraction, if not
   the entirety, of the work in question.  It is suggested (but not
   guaranteed to be "Fair Use") that you use no more than 300 words
   or 10%, whichever is SMALLER, on works quoted without permission
   in non-electronic media, paid subscriptions, etc.
     [2] Paul & Sarah Edwards in "Publish, Don't Plagiarize," Home Office
         Computing, February 1996.

3. Common Sense Stuff
=====================
a. As with any community, it becomes a more pleasant place for us all if
some common courtesy is maintained.  This means refraining from sarcasm
or attacks directed at other list members or groups, not demeaning other
contributors, being welcoming to new members (or new posters) of the
list, etc.  Don't fall into the trap of letting the absence of
face-to-face interaction lure you into forgetting the cordiality you
would show if you met the person at a live event, practica, etc.
Please also see the section of these rules on "No flames."

b. When posting requests for information, ask for information to be sent
directly to you (rather than to the entire list) and offer to compile
the reponses for posting to the entire list.  Then do it!

c. Avoid 1-liners and other trivia.  One- or two-line responses are
almost always junk mail, e.g., "I agree!"  "Yes, me [sic] too!"  Either
add some more value by elaborating, or use personal e-mail to show 1-line
support for someone's position.

d. Make the "Subject:" field of your message as explicit a 1-line
description of the content of your message as you can.  If you have a
"digest" subscription and are following up to a previous posting, copy
the exact contents of the original "Subject:" line (assuming it is an
appropriate one for your follow-up), prepend the word "re: " and use
that as the "Subject:" for your followup.  Do not simply use the digest
banner "TANGO-L Daily Digest from xxx to yyy" as the subject, even if
that is the one that your mail reader generates automatically.

e. Don't quote the entire article when mailing a follow-up.  Your mailer
may make it easy to do this, but that's not a good reason to do so.
People have read the previous article, so you either don't need to quote
anything, or just the specific points you are addressing in your
followup.

f. Don't "monopolize" the list.  Don't feel like you need to reply to
every posting on which you have an opinion, unless there is some
significant tango-related information you can add to it.  So limit your
submissions to no more than 4 per week, unless there are extenuating
circumstances (such as daily "field reports" from a major week-long
Tango Congress that you're attending).  (List support functions, such as
translations of articles posted by volunteer translators, or
administrative messages, do not count towards this limit.)

g. Don't post binary files, even if they are uuencoded.  Similarly, the
use of multipart MIME-encoded messages, even if they are all text, is
discouraged, since it is rarely necessary on this list, and since the use
of mail clients that support these is not sufficiently universal yet.
Other similarly annoying and unnecessary practices: Inclusion of PGP
keys, long signatures, etc.

h. There are innumerable cultures and cultural differences represented on
this list.  Many may not be fluent in English (or whatever language
you're posting in), and the e-mail medium makes it difficult to
interpret true intent.  Human communication is 85% non-verbal and 15%
verbal. Things can be said orally that, because of body language,
intonation, etc., take on a whole different meaning.  In e-mail, the
only thing transmitted is what is written. "Smileys" and other attempts
at denoting emotions are a poor substitute and can themselves be
misinterpreted.  The following rule will always stand you in good stead:

     "Be generous in the interpretation of what you read, and sensitive
      in your language in what you write."

i. Privately received correspondence should not be posted publically
without the consent of the author.  This could be either private
e-mail, or even an article from a small or intimate private discussion
group whose members may expect a high degree of privacy in their
postings.

4. Commercial Postings (Advertising)
====================================
a. Virtually all commercial Tango-related postings are in fact
announcements, either of forthcoming events, e.g., workshops or
special events, or of sources for Tango materials (e.g., CDs).
These announcements are now permitted on Tango-A, subject to
the posting rules of Tango-A, which are much more liberal in
this regard than those of Tango-L prior to the existence of
Tango-A. As stated in Section 1(c), such announcements are
consequently no longer appropriate on Tango-L and should be posted
on Tango-A.

b. Postings that are not directly related to the Tango are explicitly
prohibited.

c. Reviews of teachers, etc., by DISINTERESTED third parties
(whose only relationship is that of satisfied--or dis-satisfied-
customer) are not considered commercial postings, and are always
welcomed. If it is a review of a local event or a local teacher,
however, it should probably go as a follow-up to a posting to Tango-A.
(Such postings should include a statement of your lack of affiliation,
and that you weren't asked to make such a post.)

d. It is permitted to make a one-time introduction of oneself as a
Tango professional or a Tango organization (commercial, community or
non-profit) to the list membership, and this may be repeated no more
frequently than once a year. Note that this introduction should be
just that--information on specific events or classes should be sent to
Tango-A.

5. List Abuse and Responses to Them
===================================
a. Spams.  Every once in a while, someone will post an advertisement to
all the mailing lists and/or newsgroups that he can possibly find (a
"spam"). Of course, this is unlikely to be related to the Tango and
since the poster rarely if ever subscribes to any of these lists, a rule
that says "No spams" is irrelevant.  However, we state this rule anyway:
"No spams and no advertising unrelated to the subject matter of the list."
(There are some built-in mechanisms to minimize the likelihood of most
spams reaching the list members.)

b. Distribution of Chain Letters.  This is strictly forbidden by the
policies of the sponsoring institution (MIT), and includes any posting
that explicitly requests further distribution in a manner intended to
replicate in a chain reaction fashion beyond a particular discussion
group.  The definition of a chain letter is not limited to those which
request money--Virus "alerts," political petitions, attempts to
set world records for e-mail received and "e-mail bomb" requests are some
other examples of what would be considered a chain letter.

c. Responses to Chain letters and Spams, or any other list abuse.
Should someone abuse the list in any way, whether or not identifed in
these rules, the most important rule is that NO followup note or
discussion of any kind about the abuse should be sent to the whole
list, as that just multiplies manifold the junk mail created by that
spam. Appropriate responses are (in order of preference):
 - Delete and ignore
 - Write up a nasty letter to the originator, to get it out of your
   system, and then delete both the letter and the original e-mail
   (or send it to the INDIVIDUAL if you must, but it will probably
   bounce or go to the wrong person)
 - Send a nice letter to the service provider from which site the mail
   originated, requesting that the offender be disciplined, permanently
   denied access, etc.
 - Join one of the discussions on net abuse on some OTHER suitable list
   or newsgroup, where such things are discussed ad nauseum
 - As far as this list is concerned, anything else, as long as it does
   NOT involve the entire list.

6. Enforcement of rules
=======================
In most cases, violation of rules by a list member is unintentional and
only requires education of the offender as to proper usage.  Less often,
it is a flagrant or repeated violation by someone who believes he is
above the rules. The list administrators will generally send an
explanatory note explaining the problem. In the case of repeated or
severe violations (intentional or otherwise) the list adminstrators
may screen all further postings to the list from the individual(s)
concerned until there is positive evidence that the problem has
abated, in order to protect the list and its membership.

If you believe someone has violated a rule, send the person a politely
worded message informing him or her of that, preferably with the
relevant portion of these rules attached. Do this by private e-mail
ONLY--do NOT chastise the person publically on the list as this leads to
the inevitable flame-war.  This is NOT a suggestion to "mail bomb" the
person; rather, it is hoped that a large number of private reprimands
(especially in the case of intentional violations) will make it clear
that the behaviour was inappropriate.  You may send a copy of that mail
to the administrators at tango-L-REQUEST@mitvma.mit.edu if you would
like to.

If you would like to submit an article that you think is marginal, you
are welcome to e-mail it first to the list administrator at
tango-L-REQUEST@mitvma.mit.edu for an opinion.

If you believe that someone is flagrantly or repeatedly violating the
list rules and the the administrators are not controlling this
properly, please forward the relevant messages to the administrators at
tango-L-request@mitvma.mit.edu and they will consider the situation.

It is hoped that the above procedure will suffice.  However, to protect
the list and its members, it is necessary to state that you may be
removed from the list, and/or kept from posting to it, under
circumstances including, but not limited to, the following: Extreme,
continued or intentional violation of the list guidelines and policies,
or of Internet usage conventions (as determined solely by the list
administrator or list owner, or person(s) designated by the list
administrator or list owner); violation of the acceptable use policies
of the sponsoring institution (MIT); violation of any applicable law,
including copyright law; any other action that, in the sole opinion of
the list administrator or list owner, or person(s) designated by the
list administrator or list owner, may be harmful to the list, its
members, or the computer or communications facilities or networks that
support it.

7. Function of this medium
==========================
a. This list is only a distribution medium.  Submitters are wholly
responsible for the content and appropriateness of all mailings made to
the list.

b. Although the list administrators attempt to limit abusive behaviour,
and retain full authority to remove members from the list or restrict
their access to the list, with or without cause, this is fundamentally
an open and public list and the list administrators, list owners, and
sponsoring organizations are not responsible for the policing of this
list or their members, or for the content or source of information that
appears on this list.

Shahrukh Merchant
"Tango-L" co-administrator
tango-L-request@mitvma.mit.edu 

Step 5

Check on the details governing your subscription (as mentioned in the "welcoming message"):
 

And here is what I got in response:
 

Step 6

You may prefer to change some the options set for your subscription. For example, you may not want to receive each posting individually (you may prefer to receive a "digest" only) or you may not want to receive a copy of your own postings (but be content with an acknowledgment). As discussed in more detail in the welcoming message (see above), this can be done by sending another message to the "subscription department" and using the SET command:
 

And you will receive a response either telling you that your subscription options have been changed or about a mistake you have made while requesting the change.
 

With this list, I am required to send confirmation messages for both my requests. Other lists do accept such changes immediately. But the confirmation process is the same as for the initial subscription.
 

Step 7

Now you are ready to post. Be aware of the "netetiquette" -- the rules for good behavior on an e-mail list. Also, this particular list puts new subscribers on "probation". Though it is not a "moderated" list, new subscriptions are set to "review" (see output in response to our QUERY above), i.e. a human being will screen your posting first thus causing a delay of maybe 2 or 3 days before your posting reaches the subscribers to this list. As I really have nothing to say about the "Argentine Tango" at this point, I did not really send the following posting. It is just to show you how to set up a posting:
 

Note that I now use the list address rather than the address for the subscription department. Never confuse the two unless you want to identify yourself as a true ignoramus or a genuine digital dummie.